Tuesday, October 2, 2007

New Semester... New Rocket Team; Update

Welcome Back
The fall semester began last month at SDSU and we have started working on rockets again. Hopefully we will start posting regular updates on this blog again. We would also like to use this blog as a way for our team members to communicate and post ideas, so I am going to add the entire team roster as blog publishers. Anyone else out there in the world wide web can also comment, share ideas and ask questions.

May Static Test Findings
We last reported that our May 27, 2007 static test fire ended in a fireball -- likely a hard start. I was hoping the telemetry data would yield valuable clues as to what went wrong, unfortunately the data does not show a smoking gun. In fact, the data looks jumbled and I suspect we have had some issues with our sensor, their calibration or electrical noise. Here is the data we captured at the time of ignition:
The ignition occurs around 800 seconds on the chart. The helium pressure looks to be at about the correct range 1400-1700 psi, although I don't understand the drop from 1700 to 1400 in the minute before ignition (cooling due to expansion, maybe???). The kerosene pressure trace seems errant (it could not have been 1200 psi... the tank would burst at ~750psi) . The combustion pressure could not have been 500 psi before ignitions, so this telemetry channel could have been switched with the kerosene since this was the pressure the kerosene tank was set to. The LOX channel is completely erratic before ignition. Since we were not using cryo rated transducers could we have damaged this one?

Hopefully we will do better on data collection/telemetry this year.

Here are a few suspicions I had:

(1) poor or weak igniter.
(2) purge not working as expected; propellants made there way behind the injector.
(3) Contamination in the LOX side plumbing.
(4) The LOX line was filled with GOX. By the time LOX reached the chamber, it was like having a fuel lead and hence a hardstart. If anyone can make any sense of our traces, please feel free to post your comments.

New Team Members
We have 7 or 8 new interested students this semester as well as 4 or 5 returning students. The team leaders are:
Alex Bautista
Eddie Corwin
Stephen Kirby

This is a great, enthusiastic, motivated group we have this year. I expect good things to come!

New Rocket... A Step Back
We had a long discussion on what we wanted to do this year and we came to the conclusion that the past rockets got too complicated. We decided to try to simplify our rocket. We would like to make a simple rocket and then as our program progresses we can incrementally improve the rocket and add performance to it. This is a philosophy similar to the CSULB/Garvey program, and they have been very successful and have grown a lot. we also want to spend a lot more time up front designing the rocket in the virtual world. We found ourselves throwing things together on the past rocket and reworking a lot. Here are the main changes we have committed to:
  • ablative motor -- We are going to make our own ablative motor with a graphite throat. The motor design is based on a LOX/alcohol motor that the Reaction Research Society shared with me. The motor is rated for 600 lbf. of thrust, however we may up-rate it to 800 or more. The LOX/kerosene LR101 we had used has given us a fair amount of ignition problems, and LOX/alcohol is suppose to be a little more benign in ignition. Plus, alcohol is a lot more pleasant to work with than kerosene.
  • blow down pressurization -- A blow down pressurization system fills the tanks half way with propellant. You then pressurize the space above (the ullage) . When you open the main propellant valves the pressure forces the propellant out of the tank. The ullage pressure gradually decays due to expansion as the tank empties. The simplifies pressurization and removes at least two regulators.
  • Tanks/airframe -- Our past rockets used modified stainless steel fire extinguishers in a stringer/bulkhead airframe. Not very mass fraction efficient, but a very robust airframe. The biggest drawback of this structure is the airframe takes a long time to fabricate. This time around we are going to make our tanks the airframe. Paul Breed from Unreasonable Rocket has demonstrated 8" diameter aluminum welded tanks which were easy to fabricate and held 500 psi. We are going to add skirts to the these tanks and connect them with an inter-tank adapter. I think making the airframe from tankage will be much easier. The only challenge I see is making all of the valving fit within a 8" cylinder which we have already begun to address. We also have to run some plumbing along the side of the tanks. Here are some preliminary pictures of what we have in mind.

  • Valves -- Steve K. came up with this cool way to actuate our main propellant valves (see pictures of simplified assembly below). It uses a pnuematic cylinder (or any linear actuator) as our past actuated valves, however, the clever linkage allows us to use the stock ball valves with out modifying the handles. In fact all the parts are off the shelf.

Fund Raising
We do not get any funding from SDSU :-( Up to now we have relied on donations from sponsors, alumni, etc. We are going to make a conscience effort to look for funds, grants, etc. Ideally we would like to partner with a corporate sponsor(s) who could provide hardware or financial contributions. If you have a company that would be interested in helping us or know of what please contact us on this blog. I think this project is a great educational tool and I hope some aerospace companies will recognize that. Some of our past students are working at great jobs such as NASA-Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Northrop-Grumman, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Scaled Composites, Air Force Research Laboratory and so on. Most of them told me that their employers hired them because of the hards-on experience with the rocket project.

--- Carl T.
Faculty Adviser

12 comments:

wildiris said...

Great, you're still active. I was a member of the Rocket Research Institute, Fair Oakes, CA, back in the 60’s and early 70’s. Ken Mason was a member back then and I helped him with some of his projects. That’s back when we were still in our teen’s and early twenty’s. I wanted to relate to you the fact that Ken, besides his work with the LR101 motors, also built a number of ablative cooled liquid rocket motors. They were filament wound with fiberglass and epoxy and had graphite inserts for the throat and were good for about a minute of run time. But it looks like, from your current blog entry, you’ve already picked up on that design possibility.

Back then, Ken was the liquid fuel guy, and Chuck Piper was the solid fuel guy. Chuck went on to be the main driving force behind the creation of the “Rocket Ranch”. It just may be the most complete amateur rocket test facility there is, and is located about 20 miles, east of San Jose, CA. My nitch in the RRI back then was taking care of, setting up and running the static test instrumentation. I also did some flight electronics, so I might be able to offer you a few pointers there.

Glen Reuschling
Wild Iris Design
Watsonville, CA.

Carl Tedesco said...

Glen,

Ken has been a tremendous resource and has given us valuable help. I heard he has fallen ill. I haven't heard from him in a while. Do you know how he's doing?

I think the LR101 is a great motor, but since they are becoming rarer to obtain & education is our primary objective, I think it is wise to build our own motors. I think the students will get a lot out of it too.

Thanks for following us.

--- Carl

Joey Brown said...

I love the new propellant valve design. So simple and does the job perfectly. Not sure about this whole blowdown method but then again what do I know, I could never get it up. I hope all of the new rocket team members realize that this project is going to gaurantee them the job of their choice once they graduate. This is the case for all of the rocket alumnus.

Did my $10,000 check make it through the mail yet? Keep looking.

Carl Tedesco said...

No $10,000 checks yet on my desk. Don't be surprised if the alumni see an email in the near future asking for a $25 to $100 donation :-)

wildiris said...

I have not talked to Ken in over twenty years. I moved away from the Sacramento area years ago and lost touch with everybody I knew in the "Rocket Club". I'm saddened to hear he may be ill. I'll try and get in touch with him again.

As far as igniters go, Chuck Piper would be the one to go to. He was our pyrotechnic guy. He used to make his own homemade fireworks (up to 8 and 10 inch shells!) in his folk’s backyard. He also used to put on commercial fireworks shows that a bunch of us from the RRI would show up and help out with. It was a firework shell that cost Ken one of his eyes!

Regarding your kerosene source. Are you using RP1? Off-the-shelf as well as JP4 have stuff in them (I'm not a chemist, so I don't know the correct term) that will "coke-up" under the heat that the kerosene is exposed to, while going through the regenerative cooling section of your liquid motor.

Is it possible for you to post or email me a little more information on your static test instrumentation? The dark blue trace seems to be an overloaded signal. (Amplifier gain set too high?) The erratic LOX trace is probably bubbling in the line. Most all pressure transducers made nowadays use semiconductor strain gauge elements which are quite temperature sensitive. I don't recall that we ever tried to measure the LOX pressure directly. We always just recorded the tank N2 pressure. But the kerosene pressure could be recorded directly.

For static testing, we had servo-valves for both of the kerosene and LOX lines. For start-up, Ken would actually hand-control the valves. So whatever start-up sequencing of the fuel and oxidizer flows there was to get the rocket motor to ignite and run properly, it was up in Ken’s head!

Carl Tedesco said...

Glen,
We use to use Jet-A aviation kerosene, but recently got some RP1 from the Air Force. The jet-A worked fine. I realize their was the possibility for fouling due to polymerization of residuals in the kerosene, but we never saw that. I imagine if we ever did long duration burns like the motor was intended (7-8 minutes) it would have been a serious problem. The RP1 made that moot.
I can send you the excel spread sheet with our raw telemetry data and the model of our transducers. Email me at 321ignition at gmail.com.
About LOX pressure measurements... someone suggested we pack the pressure transducer and a portion of the tube leading up to it with krytox grease. This would put a barrier between the cold GOX and the transducer strain guage and help eliminate some of the temperature effects. I think we will try this in the future. What do you think.

--- Carl

Damien said...

Glad to hear you're up again. Good luck guys !

R2K said...

Great work here guys... looks like a pro level rocket.

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